Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261335AbVBNNNi (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:13:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261431AbVBNNNh (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:13:37 -0500 Received: from nijmegen.renzel.net ([195.243.213.130]:43204 "EHLO mx1.renzel.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261335AbVBNNNS (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:13:18 -0500 From: Mws To: lm@bitmover.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:13:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.92 References: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9247964.PBGD0vBhve"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502141413.36066.mws@twisted-brains.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3308 Lines: 73 --nextPart9247964.PBGD0vBhve Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 14 February 2005 03:08, Larry McVoy wrote: > This is a heads up that the BK tree for the kernel is currently at 59,000 > changesets give or take a few. The BK that you are using uses unsigned > shorts for the internal names of each delta which means you folks are > about 100 days away from things no longer working. >=20 > The good news is that the openlogging tree for the kernel has 135,000 > changesets so we've obviously long since fixed this problem. >=20 > The bad news is that you will need to upgrade your BK binary in order > to pass over the 64K changeset boundary. The data is stored on disk in > ascii so it doesn't matter if you upgrade until you hit the problem but > sooner or later you will need to upgrade. >=20 > We'll get the fix into bk-3.2.4 which should be out by the end of the > month. When we release that we'll send out notice and it would be good > if people gave it a try and let us know if they hit issues because in a > couple of months everyone is going to have to upgrade. >=20 > It's possible that we'll be changing the BK license to conform more with > our commercial license but we won't do that without running it by Linus & > Co to make sure that it's acceptable. One change we'd like to make there > is to clarify the non-compete stuff. We've had some people who have > indicated that they believed that if they used BK they were agreeing > that they would never work on another SCM system. We can see how it > is possible that people would interpret the license that way but that > wasn't our intent. What we would like to do is change the language to > say that if you use BK you are agreeing that you won't work on another > SCM for 1 year after you stop using BK. But after that you would be > able to hack on anything that you wanted. That was more of what we > had in mind in the first place but we didn't make it clear. If you all > thought that using BK meant you had no right to hack on SCM ever again, > that's just not fair. We need to protect our IP but you should have > the right to choose to go hack SCM if that's what you (our first choice > is that you came and worked here, we really like kernel hackers, but if > you don't want to that's cool too). Hi,=20 do you mean "if you use BK you are agreeing that you won't work on another SCM for 1 year after you stop using BK." for the kernel tree and developers= or in general? i think this statement is just a kind of trying the MicrosoftBeingTheOneAnd= Only way. it's a kind of extortion - use bk or die :/ if it is really being that way - say goodbye to bk as soon as possible. regards mws --nextPart9247964.PBGD0vBhve Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCEKQAPpA+SyJsko8RAptkAJ0arKO2plUMLcEMd4KbVYD5j6+ukwCgqwUB ndWjiMTESOSBw3dnghtw9gU= =t76S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9247964.PBGD0vBhve-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/