Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262219AbVBQGAZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:00:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262228AbVBQGAZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:00:25 -0500 Received: from simmts8.bellnexxia.net ([206.47.199.166]:13458 "EHLO simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262219AbVBQGAR (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:00:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3615.10.10.10.24.1108619875.squirrel@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20050217045743.GB6115@thunk.org> References: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> <58cb370e05021404081e53f458@mail.gmail.com> <20050214150820.GA21961@optonline.net> <20050214154015.GA8075@bitmover.com> <7579f7fb0502141017f5738d1@mail.gmail.com> <20050214185624.GA16029@bitmover.com> <1108469967.3862.21.camel@crazytrain> <42131637.2070801@tequila.co.jp> <20050216154321.GB34621@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <4213E141.5040407@tequila.co.jp> <20050217045743.GB6115@thunk.org> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:57:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed From: "Sean" To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: "Clemens Schwaighofer" , "Olivier Galibert" , kernel@crazytrain.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-7 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 37 On Wed, February 16, 2005 11:57 pm, Theodore Ts'o said: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 09:11:45AM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: >> >> first. what kind of advantages does bk have over other svn? Seriously. >> If Apache can use it, and gcc might use it (again two very large >> projects), what makes linux so differetnt that it can't. > > Compare the number of developers, the number of overlapping > simultaneous development trees, and the number of patches that touch > overlapping files, and you'll begin to start to appreciate the > difference between a system that can work for Linux, and a system that > can working for simpler projects. > Hey Ted, Considering that the kernel was being developed without BK for a long time it's rather obvious that _any_ version control system could have improved the situation. BK gets credit for improving the situation, but much of that improvment could have been achieved with any of the simpler and truly free options too. Even today, some top developers do not use BK and manage to get along fine. BK offers some advantages over simpler version control offerings but the price is too high. It's disappointing to see so many top developers not give a damn about its costs and ignore the difficulties it creates for many. Cheers, Sean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/