Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261288AbVBRCZM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:25:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261287AbVBRCZM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:25:12 -0500 Received: from adsl-69-233-54-133.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net ([69.233.54.133]:57351 "EHLO bastard.smallmerchant.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261282AbVBRCZF (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: <421551F5.5090005@tupshin.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:24:53 -0800 From: Tupshin Harper User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050116) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick McFarland Cc: lm@bitmover.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, darcs-users@darcs.net Subject: Re: [darcs-users] Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed References: <20050214020802.GA3047@bitmover.com> <200502172105.25677.pmcfarland@downeast.net> In-Reply-To: <200502172105.25677.pmcfarland@downeast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1911 Lines: 44 Patrick McFarland wrote: >On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:08 pm, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >>Something that unintentionally started a flamewar. >> >> > >Well, we just went through another round of 'BK sucks' and 'BK sucks, we need >to switch to something else'. > >Sans the flamewar, are there any options? CVS and SVN are out because they do >not support 'off server' branches (arch and darcs do). Darcs would probably >be the best choice because its easy to use, and the darcs team almost has a >working linux-kernel import script (originally designed to just test darcs >with a huge repo, but provides a mostly working linux tree). > >So, without the flamewar, what is everyone's opinion on this? > > Speaking as somebody that uses Darcs evey day, my opinion is that the future of OSS SCM will be something like arch or darcs but that neither are ready for projects the size of the linux kernel yet. Darcs is definitely way too slow for really large projects (though great for small to medium sized ones). Last I checked, Arch was still too slow in some areas, though that might have changed in recent months. Also, many people, me included, find the usability of arch to be from ideal. My hope and expectation is that Arch and Darcs will both improve their performance, features, and usability and that in the not too distant future both of them will be viable alternatives for large scale source tree management. The important thing for the health of the SCM ecosystem is that there be ways to losslessly convert and interoperate between them as well as between legacy/centralized systems such as CVS and SVN as well as with BK. -Tupshin - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/