Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261212AbVBVUQS (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:16:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261225AbVBVUQS (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:16:18 -0500 Received: from zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com ([47.129.242.57]:40620 "EHLO zcars04f.nortelnetworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261212AbVBVUQQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: <421B9309.6080503@nortel.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:16:09 -0600 X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Chris Friesen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040115 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony DiSante CC: linux-kernel Subject: Re: uninterruptible sleep lockups References: <421A3414.2020508@nodivisions.com> <200502211945.j1LJjgbZ029643@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <421A4375.9040108@nodivisions.com> <421B12DB.70603@aitel.hist.no> <421B14A8.3000501@nodivisions.com> <421B9018.7020007@nodivisions.com> In-Reply-To: <421B9018.7020007@nodivisions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 28 Anthony DiSante wrote: > linux-os wrote: > >> There has been some discussion that these hung >> states could be "fixed", but that's absolutely >> positively incorrect. > > > That's one of the things I asked a few messages ago. Some people on the > list were saying that it'd be "really hard" and would "require a lot of > bookkeeping" to "fix" permanently-D-stated processes... which is > completely different than "impossible." Nothing is "impossible". Cracking SHA-256 isn't "impossible", it just takes more computing power than exists on the face of the planet. Call it "infeasable" if you like. It's theoretically possible, but the amount of work and the overhead involved just are not realistic. And then you have the likelihood of a bug in the bookkeeping code leading to runtime corruption... Better to take the hit now and fix the original problem. Chris - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/