Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:51:40 -0500
From: "John L. Males" <jlmales@softhome.net>
To: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: jlmales@softhome.net
Subject: Re: Problems with SCSI tape rewind / verify on 2.4.29
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Andrew/Kai,

> List:       linux-kernel
> Subject:    Re: Problems with SCSI tape rewind / verify on 2.4.29
> From:       Andrew Morton <akpm () osdl ! org>
> Date:       2005-03-02 22:17:11
> Message-ID: <20050302141711.00ec7147.akpm () osdl ! org>
> [Download message RAW]
> 
> Kai Makisara <Kai.Makisara@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> >
> > f seek with tape is changed back to returning success, this would
> > enable correct tar --verify at the beginning of the tape. However,
> > I am not sure what happens if we are not at the beginning. I will
> > investigate this and suggest a long term fix to the tar people (a
> > fix that should be compatible with all Unix tape semantics I know)
> > and also suggest possible fixes to st (this may include automatic
> > writing of a filemark when BSF is used after writes).

Kai,

I have a second problem that is perhaps another case of kernel and tar
combined effect problem.  I have not had time to test with the 2.6.7
and 2.6.9 knoppix based kernels to see if same problem as >= 2.4.26
has.  Can you hold out about 3-4 days for me to do the test and report
the issue to Marcelo to screen first, Kai?  I have feeling what I
experienced in testing change to st.c Marcelo suggested that caused me
to try 2.4.26 again and fail on this new issue has some bearing on
tape positioning you want to check out.

> 
> Yes, please let's get a tar fix in the pipeline.
> 
> GNU tar must run on a lot of operating systems.  It's odd.
> 
> > If you think want to make st return success for seeks even if
> > nothing happens (as it did earlier), I don't have anything against
> > that. It would 

I think it is important if an error is enccountered a non-successful
return (code) is returned.  If an action is required that requires no
action as it is at the place/state/position being requested it is
reasonable to return a successful return (code). 

> > solve the practical problem several people have reported recently.
> > (My recommendation for the people seeing this problem is to do
> > verification separately with 'tar -d'.)

As aside, I have tried the tar -d option as well and it worked, but
was my understanding the --verify does a data readback compare of the
files in the tar, whereas the tar -d option only compares if files
names in tar to directory?  That to me means a big difference in
confidance the tar backup is ok, as I look to have readback verify to
increase confidance of backup success.

> 
> Yes, I think we need to grit our teeth and do this.  I'll stick a
> comment in there.


Regards,

John L. Males
Willowdale, Ontario
Canada
02 March 2005 (17:45 -) 18:51

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