Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261208AbVCCAxR (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:53:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261324AbVCCAuN (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:50:13 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:2502 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261340AbVCCA15 (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:27:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:27:33 -0500 From: Dave Jones To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jeff Garzik , Russell King , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering Message-ID: <20050303002733.GH10124@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , Jeff Garzik , Russell King , Kernel Mailing List References: <20050302230634.A29815@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <42265023.20804@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1266 Lines: 29 On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 04:00:46PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I would not keep regular driver updates from a 2.6. thing. Then the notion of it being stable is bogus, given how many regressions the last few kernels have brought in drivers. Moving from 2.6.9 -> 2.6.10 broke ALSA, USB, parport, firewire, and countless other little bits and pieces that users tend to notice. The reason that things like 4-level page tables worked out so well was that it was tested in -mm for however long, so by the time it got to your tree, the silly bugs had already been shaken out. Compare this to random-driver-update. -mm testing is a valuable proving ground, but its no panacea to stability. There's no guarantee that someone with $affected_device even tried a -mm kernel. For it to truly be a stable kernel, the only patches I'd expect to drivers would be ones fixing blindingly obvious bugs. No cleanups. No new functionality. I'd even question new hardware support if it wasn't just a PCI ID addition. Dave - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/