Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261833AbVCCJcU (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:32:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261764AbVCCJbC (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:31:02 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:34444 "EHLO parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261709AbVCCJSa (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4226D655.2040902@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 04:18:13 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH CC: Linus Torvalds , Russell King , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering References: <20050302230634.A29815@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <42265023.20804@pobox.com> <20050303002047.GA10434@kroah.com> <20050303081958.GA29524@kroah.com> <4226CCFE.2090506@pobox.com> <20050303090106.GC29955@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20050303090106.GC29955@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1662 Lines: 55 Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 03:38:22AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>The pertinent question for a point release (2.6.X.Y) would simply be >>"does a 2.6.11 user really need this fix?" > > > "need this fix bad enough now, or can it wait until 2.6.12?" > > >>>Like I previously said, I think we're doing a great job. The current >>>-mm staging area could use some more testers to help weed out the real >>>issues, and we could do "real" releases a bit faster than every 2 months >>>or so. But other than that, we have adapted over the years to handle >>>this extremely high rate of change in a pretty sane manner. >> >>I think Linus's "even/odd" proposal is an admission that 2.6.X releases >>need some important fixes after it hits kernel.org. > > > I agree. > > >>Otherwise 2.6.X is simply a constantly indeterminent state. > > > Heh, true, but all software is in that state :) > > >>We need to serve users, not just make life easier for kernel developers ;-) > > > Damm those pesky users. Without them our life would be so much > easier... hehe :) I do honestly worry that sometimes we lose sight of what best serves our users. We need to not only produce a useful kernel, but also package it in a way that is useful to the direct consumers of the kernel: distros [large and small] and power users. What do those direct consumers really want? What best serves them? Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/