Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261649AbVCCLtL (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:49:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261615AbVCCLME (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:12:04 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:42654 "EHLO parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261587AbVCCK7t (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:59:49 -0500 Message-ID: <4226EE0F.1050405@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 05:59:27 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Morton CC: greg@kroah.com, torvalds@osdl.org, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering References: <20050302230634.A29815@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <42265023.20804@pobox.com> <20050303002047.GA10434@kroah.com> <20050303081958.GA29524@kroah.com> <4226CCFE.2090506@pobox.com> <20050303090106.GC29955@kroah.com> <4226D655.2040902@pobox.com> <20050303021506.137ce222.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20050303021506.137ce222.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1087 Lines: 36 Rather than mixing problem and solution, let me just define the two problems in this thread: 1) There is no clear, CONSISTENT point where "bugfixes only" begins. Right now, it could be -rc2, -rc3, -rc4... who knows. We need to send a clear signal to users "this is when you can really start hammering it." A signal that does not change from release to release. A signal that does not require intimate knowledge of the kernel devel process. This is a key reason why we don't get more pre-release testing. 2) After 2.6.11 release is out, there is no established process for "oh shit, 2.6.11 users will really want that fixed." -------------------- Linus's even/odd proposal is an example of a solution for problem #2, as is my 2.6.X.Y proposal. The 2.4.x series -pre/-rc is an example of a solution for problem #1. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/