Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:00:18 +0100
From: Jochen Striepe <jochen@tolot.escape.de>
To: Martin Schlemmer <azarah@nosferatu.za.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing Lists <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering
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    Hi,

On 03 Mar 2005, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
[Why don't the rc's get the testing they need?]
> The first few -rc's was tested by the more conservative users, but then
> things broken on them, and they went "what the hell?  Is this a -rc?",
> and got the currently standard "sorry for your issues, but 2.6 -rc's
> *might* be release ready or it might be a accident ready to happen.
> Please check LKML for when Linus says to slow down" reply.  And how many
> of your more conservative users will start to read LKML for that?
>=20
> So now you are basically sitting with a situation where -rc's really do
> not get the coverage they should, and 'stable' 2.6.x versions are really
> not that stable, with lots of excuses being thrown around - its the
> distro's job to make a stable kernel - comes to mind.  And you know what
> - your conservative users (which this horkage is all about) actually
> heard that via a friend/whoever that reads LKML.  The outcome? - many of
> them probably do not even test 2.6.x kernels anymore, but wait for the
> distro, or try -ac/-ck kernels until they get an issue there (the sound
> issue with fedora that was mentioned comes to mind).

Or they go back to 2.4 kernels. I agree 100% -- this is exactly what I
see when I look around over here.

Many thanks for finding the right words for what I had in mind!


Greetings,

Jochen.
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