Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261927AbVCCQUb (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:20:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261755AbVCCQUb (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:20:31 -0500 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:11435 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261927AbVCCQUV (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:20:21 -0500 Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering From: Lee Revell To: Prakash Punnoor Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <4226E6F3.2030803@arcor.de> References: <20050303002047.GA10434@kroah.com> <200503022121.07679.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <4226E6F3.2030803@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:20:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1109866818.2908.3.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1590 Lines: 35 On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 11:29 +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > A gentoo view: There are lots of patchsets floating around in the gentoo forum > based on either vanilla or mm-kernel, but over the months something has > changed: Previously most patchsets were based on mm, but now are based on > vanilla. Why? Very simple: mm became too unstable. I used to go with a mm > based kernel just for fun, but it changed as one kernel had some serious > issues with reiserfs - and it is really not fun to lose data. (At least I read > about it, before testing that kernel.) Since then i never touched a mm-kernel > again, in fact now I even feel scared to put on a vanilla-rc kernel. I do it, > but I feel like when I use a "stable" mm-kernel from earlier times... > > So if you wantpeople to test kernels, they shouldn't be too unstable... Thanks, it's about time someone said this. We had a preview of what it would be like if "more users tested -mm" when Ingo's realtime preempt patches were based on it, so the audio oriented distros briefly shipped -mm kernels. It was a nightmare. Most people (icluding myself) experienced daily lockups. When Ingo rebased the RT patch against mainline there was muich rejoicing on LAU. -mm is just too unstable for anyone but kernel hackers to run. Anyone who tells you otherwise is smoking something. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/