Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262220AbVCCUAM (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:00:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262222AbVCCT4z (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:56:55 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:26533 "EHLO parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262169AbVCCTwg (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <42276AF5.3080603@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:52:21 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040922 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Thomas Gleixner , Adrian Bunk , Greg KH , "David S. Miller" , Andrew Morton , LKML Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering References: <42268749.4010504@pobox.com> <20050302200214.3e4f0015.davem@davemloft.net> <42268F93.6060504@pobox.com> <4226969E.5020101@pobox.com> <20050302205826.523b9144.davem@davemloft.net> <4226C235.1070609@pobox.com> <20050303080459.GA29235@kroah.com> <4226CA7E.4090905@pobox.com> <20050303170808.GG4608@stusta.de> <1109877336.4032.47.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1060 Lines: 33 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > >>It still does not solve the problem of "untested" releases. Users will >>still ignore the linus-tree-rcX kernels. > > > .. and maybe that problem is unsolvable. People certainly argued > vehemently that anything we do to try to make test releases (renaming etc) > won't help. > > So what do you do if you find an unsolvable problem? You don't solve it: > you make sure it's not a show-stopper. I disagree it's unsolvable: 1) At some point in the -rc cycle, you put your foot down and say "nothing but bugfixes." 2) Indicate this foot-stomp in a manner that a script can easily notice. That's all the 2.4.x's -pre/-rc accomplishes. It encourages people to test, by telling them when their testing would be most useful. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/