Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261379AbVCDFuX (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:50:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261479AbVCDFuX (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:50:23 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72]:54299 "EHLO sj-iport-3.cisco.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261379AbVCDFuR (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:50:17 -0500 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.90,134,1107734400"; d="scan'208"; a="231299439:sNHT91939692" Message-Id: <200503040550.AWZ06413@mira-sjc5-e.cisco.com> Reply-To: From: "Hua Zhong" To: "'Andrew Morton'" , "'Jochen Striepe'" Cc: Subject: RE: RFD: Kernel release numbering Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:50:06 -0800 Organization: Cisco Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050303213005.59a30ae6.akpm@osdl.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4939.300 Thread-Index: AcUgfKENILBaSA7/QaKhETHsmn/KWAAAHXfA Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1344 Lines: 29 > You cannot have it both ways. Either the kernel needs > testers, or it is "stable". See how these are opposites? I think one of the fundamental problems is "either the kernel needs more features, or it needs stablization". You cannot have it both ways. With the current model, the kernel develops at a faster pace than testers can keep up with, and that's why you feel there aren't enough testers. Not everyone downloads a kernel every day or even every week. Just once a while. If you roll out a kernel, you need to give some time to people to test it out. However, with the current model the kernel keeps adding features, non-bug fixes, etc, _and completely abandons the previous one and moves on_. So what's the point of testing? When I download 2.6.9, 2.6.11 might have come out. Even if bug reports do not become obosolete, they are outpaced by new bugs. Agreed we need a balance. The problem is the 2.6 focuses too much on development than stablization. The old "stable release maintainer" model was completely abandoned. Surely that was not an exciting job, but people need it. Hua - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/