Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:06:33 +0000
From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
       jgarzik@pobox.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:43:58PM +0100, Diego Calleja wrote:
> bugzilla.kernel.org is there but not many people look at it (which I
> understand, using bugzilla is painfull, altough basing all your
> development strategy around it _is_ rewarding, as happens in gnome/etc,
> where the release announcement includes a list bugzilla numbers which
> point to fixed bugs or "new feature" bugs in the case of new
> features).

As one of those who initially thought "great" about bugzilla for kernel
stuff, and then got rather annoyed with it, I think I can talk about
why bugzilla doesn't work for kernel developers.

* The most obvious problem is that it requires you to go to the website
  before you can do anything with a bug.
* Bug reporters appear to report a bug and run away - attempting to get
  more information from them sometimes resorts in silence until you
  threaten to close the bug, or do close the bug.
* Bug categories aren't explained well enough to allow users to determine
  the correct category.  Eg, PCMCIA network card - should that be
  networking or PCMCIA (where the bugzilla PCMCIA category is actually
  *only* the PCMCIA core and not any of the drivers.)

Overall, my experience with the kernel bugzilla has been rather
unproductive.  Most bugs which came in my direction weren't for things
I could resolve.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core
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