Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262865AbVCDL5E (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:57:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262855AbVCDLzS (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:55:18 -0500 Received: from fire.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:62171 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262860AbVCDL2y (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 06:28:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 03:28:20 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Alan Cox Cc: greg@kroah.com, jgarzik@pobox.com, torvalds@osdl.org, davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering Message-Id: <20050304032820.7e3cb06c.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <1109933804.26799.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42268749.4010504@pobox.com> <20050302200214.3e4f0015.davem@davemloft.net> <42268F93.6060504@pobox.com> <4226969E.5020101@pobox.com> <20050302205826.523b9144.davem@davemloft.net> <4226C235.1070609@pobox.com> <20050303080459.GA29235@kroah.com> <4226CA7E.4090905@pobox.com> <422751C1.7030607@pobox.com> <20050303181122.GB12103@kroah.com> <20050303151752.00527ae7.akpm@osdl.org> <1109894511.21781.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050303182820.46bd07a5.akpm@osdl.org> <1109933804.26799.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1566 Lines: 32 Alan Cox wrote: > > Almost without exception maintainers will forget the backport (there are > some notable exceptions). Almost without exception maintainers will not > be aware that their backport fix clashes with another fix because that > isn't their concern. > > Linus will try and sneak stuff in that is security but not mentioned > which has to be dug out (because the bad guys read the patches too). > > And finally Linus throws the occasional gem into the backporting mix > because he will (rightly) do the long term fix that rearranges a lot of > code when the .x.y patch needs to be the ugly band aid. > > So for example Linus will happily changed remap_vm_area to fix a > security bug by changing the API entirely and making it do some other > things. Or in the case of the exec bug he did a fix that defaulted any > missed fixes to unsafe. Fine for upstream where the goal is cleanness, > bad for .x.y because the arch people hadn't caught up and did have > remaining holes. > > You also have to review the dependancy tree for a backport and what was > tested - so I skipped the NFS df fix as one example as it had never been > tested standalone only on a pile of other NFS fixes. I think you're assuming that 2.6.x.y will have larger scope than is intended. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/