Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263107AbVCDXwO (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:52:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263135AbVCDXrw (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:47:52 -0500 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:26636 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263333AbVCDWbO (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:31:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 23:31:09 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Rene Herman , Andrew Morton , Jens Axboe , tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFD: Kernel release numbering Message-ID: <20050304223109.GK3327@stusta.de> References: <20050303160330.5db86db7.akpm@osdl.org> <20050304025746.GD26085@tolot.miese-zwerge.org> <20050303213005.59a30ae6.akpm@osdl.org> <1109924470.4032.105.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> <20050304005450.05a2bd0c.akpm@osdl.org> <20050304091612.GG14764@suse.de> <20050304012154.619948d7.akpm@osdl.org> <4228B514.4020704@keyaccess.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1821 Lines: 49 On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:37:05PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: >... > I used to do "-pre", a long time ago. Exactly because they were > synchronization points for developers. >... > So the point of -pre's are gone. Have people actually _looked_ at the -rc > releases? They are very much done when I reach the point and say "ok, > let's calm down". The first one is usually pretty big and often needs some > fixing, simply because the first one is _inevitably_ (and by design) the > one that gets the pent-up demand from the previous calming down period. > > But it's very much a call to "ok, guys, calm down now". My impression about your releases is that -rc1 is a first snapshot, but there are still invasive changes until -rc3 or -rc4 when you _really_ say "only obvious bug fixes will be accepted". It's _only about naming_: Name the first one -pre1 instead of -rc1 and the snapshot you announce with "only obvious bug fixes will be accepted" -rc1. It might not matter for you how it's called, but it does matter for other people and it doesn't cost you any extra effort. > And if you aren't calming down, it's _your_ problem. Complaining about > naming of -pre vs -rc is pointless. >... If I send a non-bugfix patch to Marcelo after 2.4.30-rc1 he'll say: "Thanks, queued for 2.4.31 ." > Linus cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/