Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261200AbVCEVuI (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:50:08 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261201AbVCEVuI (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:50:08 -0500 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.40]:50566 "EHLO vms040pub.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261200AbVCEVuA (ORCPT ); Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:50:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 16:49:58 -0500 From: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.11.1 In-reply-to: To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-to: gene.heskett@verizon.net Message-id: <200503051649.58709.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Organization: None, usuallly detectable by casual observers MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050304175302.GA29289@kroah.com> <20050305174654.J3282@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2061 Lines: 50 On Saturday 05 March 2005 16:17, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Russell King wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:40:59AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> > I love BK, but what BK does well is merging and maintaining >> > trees full of good stuff. What BK sucks at is experimental stuff >> > where you don't know whether something should be eventually used >> > or not. >> >> Wait a minute - why would stuff going into 2.6.x.y be >> "experimental" stuff? Wasn't stability the whole point of this >> tree? > >The point being that _before_ a patch gets accepted, it's in that > "limbo" state, waiting for people to veto it or say "yes". > >That limbo state is not well done with BK. > > Linus What he said! Perfectly good patches, which fix real problems would appear to be sitting in testing/broken_out till bit rot or ???. If you want a testers testimony, I'm running the bk-ieee1394.patch, and all I can say at this point is that it Just Works(TM). I have NDI how it got a yesterdays Mar 4) date in the directory listing there though, I've had it a bit longer than that by 2-3 days as my copy shows a Mar 1 date. I first got it via svn fetch at linux-ieee1394.org or some such in January. Fixes for real problems that fix real problems should somehow get a faster track into final. The current firewire in the kernel as of 2.6.11 is still badly borked. If that diff in the dates means I should update and retest, please advise. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.34% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/