Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261326AbVCHE3W (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:29:22 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261353AbVCHE3W (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:29:22 -0500 Received: from fire.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:15590 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261326AbVCHE3S (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:29:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 20:28:21 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Ingo Molnar Cc: hch@infradead.org, paul@linuxaudiosystems.com, mpm@selenic.com, joq@io.com, cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com, chrisw@osdl.org, rlrevell@joe-job.com, arjanv@redhat.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] [request for inclusion] Realtime LSM Message-Id: <20050307202821.150bd023.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20050308042242.GA15356@elte.hu> References: <20050112185258.GG2940@waste.org> <200501122116.j0CLGK3K022477@localhost.localdomain> <20050307195020.510a1ceb.akpm@osdl.org> <20050308035503.GA31704@infradead.org> <20050307201646.512a2471.akpm@osdl.org> <20050308042242.GA15356@elte.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 989 Lines: 31 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > * Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > next we > > > $CAPABILITY for $FOO and we're headed straight to interface-hell. > > > > "interface hell"? Wow. > > > > Still. It seems to be what we deserve if all that fancy stuff we have > > cannot address this very simple and very real-world problem. > > please describe this "very simple and very real-world problem" in simple > terms. Lets make sure "problem" and "solution" didnt become detached. > Well others can do that better than I but I'd describe it as - Audio apps need to meet their realtime requirements - The way to implement that is to give them !SCHED_OTHER and mlockall capabilities. - But they don't want to run as root. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/