Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262494AbVCJWLe (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:11:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263270AbVCJWHh (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:07:37 -0500 Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.166]:31956 "EHLO mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263277AbVCJV7Z (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:59:25 -0500 From: Peter Chubb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16944.49977.715895.8761@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:59:21 +1100 To: John Richard Moser Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: binary drivers and development In-Reply-To: <423082BF.6060007@comcast.net> References: <423075B7.5080004@comcast.net> <423082BF.6060007@comcast.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.18. X-Face: GgFg(Z>fx((4\32hvXq<)|jndSniCH~~$D)Ka:P@e@JR1P%Vr}EwUdfwf-4j\rUs#JR{'h# !]])6%Jh~b$VA|ALhnpPiHu[-x~@<"@Iv&|%R)Fq[[,(&Z'O)Q)xCqe1\M[F8#9l8~}#u$S$Rm`S9% \'T@`:&8>Sb*c5d'=eDYI&GF`+t[LfDH="MP5rwOO]w>ALi7'=QJHz&y&C&TE_3j! Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 969 Lines: 23 >>>>> "John" == John Richard Moser writes: John> I've done more thought, here's a small list of advantages on John> using binary drivers, specifically considering UDI. You can John> consider a different implementation for binary drivers as well, John> with most of the same advantages. Almost all these advantages are also present for user-mode drivers... and getting drivers out of the kernel, where possible, is a much better approach IMHO than trying to maintain a leaky in-kernel interface. The problem with in-kernel interfaces, even if set in concrete, is that any binary driver can go outside the interface --- there's no encapsulation --- and so break when the kernel changes. Peter C - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/