Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261280AbVCLKUK (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:20:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261295AbVCLKUK (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:20:10 -0500 Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de ([81.169.145.166]:49372 "EHLO natnoddy.rzone.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261280AbVCLKUE (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:20:04 -0500 From: Stefan Rompf To: Felix von Leitner Subject: Re: 2.6.11: USB broken on nforce4, ipv6 still broken, centrino speedstep even more broken than in 2.6.10 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:24:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200503121124.17295.stefan@loplof.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1595 Lines: 32 Hi, Felix von Leitner wrote: > Did I mention that I'm really tired of you putting stones into ATI's > way? You might believe you have a right to piss everyone off, after all > people get what they paid for. Or maybe you think you are on a crusade > to promote open source software. But if you keep alienating me (I'm a > software developer) like this, I spend more time working around this > bullshit and less time writing free software. In the end, everyone > loses. I sincerely hope some day you people are done pissing in the > pool and can create at least some semblance of semi-stable APIs. This > house is never going to be safe for living until you stop digging around > the foundation. I cannot agree more. Many developers and maintainers say they don't care about binary modules - but I do have the impression a few of them care a lot by doing changes in a way that they break the current NVIDIA drivers on every new kernel release. As I read now, it seems to be the same way with ATI. Even GPL drivers developed outside the kernel are disfigured over and over with #ifdefs on KERNEL_VERSION. While I fully understand that no developer wants to support binary modules, I would appreciate a little less hostile behaviour. And btw., instable API leads to an instable kernel because not everyone can follow the changes. Stefan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/