Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261649AbVCNIjQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:39:16 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261339AbVCNIjP (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:39:15 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:49818 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261649AbVCNIjB (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:39:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:37:17 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: David Lang Cc: Dave Jones , OGAWA Hirofumi , Linus Torvalds , Paul Mackerras , benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] Message-ID: <20050314083717.GA19337@elf.ucw.cz> References: <16944.62310.967444.786526@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <20050311021248.GA20697@redhat.com> <16944.65532.632559.277927@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <87vf7xg72s.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> <20050311222614.GH4185@redhat.com> <20050314081721.GA13817@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1416 Lines: 36 Hi! > >>I'm fascinated that not a single person picked up on this problem > >>whilst the agp code sat in -mm. Even if DRI isn't enabled, > >>every box out there with AGP that uses the generic routines > >>(which is a majority), should have barfed loudly when it hit > >>this check during boot. Does no-one read dmesg output any more ? > > > >Its way too long these days. Like "so long it overflows even enlarged > >buffer". We should prune these messages down to "one line per hw > >device or serious problems only". > > especially if you turn on encryption options. I can understand that output > being useful for debugging, but there should be a way to not deal with it > in the normal case. Perhaps we could have a rule like "non-experimental driver may only print out one line per actual device?" (and perhaps: dmesg output for boot going okay should fit on one screen). Or perhaps we should have warnings-like regression testing. "New kernel 2.8.17 came: 3 errors, 135 warnings, 1890 lines of dmesg junk". Pavel -- People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers... ...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/