Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261715AbVCOUad (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:30:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261837AbVCOUWO (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:22:14 -0500 Received: from stark.xeocode.com ([216.58.44.227]:40104 "EHLO stark.xeocode.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261579AbVCOUS5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:18:57 -0500 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jesse Barnes , Pavel Machek , David Lang , Dave Jones , OGAWA Hirofumi , Paul Mackerras , benh@kernel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] References: <16944.62310.967444.786526@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <20050314083717.GA19337@elf.ucw.cz> <200503140855.18446.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> In-Reply-To: From: Greg Stark Organization: The Emacs Conspiracy; member since 1992 Date: 15 Mar 2005 15:18:35 -0500 Message-ID: <87r7igll2c.fsf@stark.xeocode.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1084 Lines: 20 Linus Torvalds writes: > And those occasional people are often not going to eb very good at > reporting bugs. If they don't see anything happening, they'll just give up > rather than bother to report it. So I do think we want the fairly verbose > thing enabled by default. You can then hide it with the graphical bootup > for "most people". Loading the usb drivers on my machine dumps 155 lines into dmesg. Surely that's a bit excessive? But really for me it's the network drivers that actually annoy me. They dump stuff into dmesg during the regular course of operation. As a result it doesn't take long until the boot messages leave the buffer. Of course they're in the log files, but running dmesg and getting screenfulls of the same messages about boring network events over and over just annoys me. -- greg - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/