Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:46:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:45:58 -0400 Received: from adsl-204-0-249-112.corp.se.verio.net ([204.0.249.112]:15350 "EHLO tabby.cats-chateau.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:45:43 -0400 From: Jesse Pollard Reply-To: jesse@cats-chateau.net To: Kip Macy , Paul Jakma Subject: Re: Switching Kernels without Rebooting? Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:31:22 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Helge Hafting , "C. Slater" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01071119453600.23085@tabby> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Kip Macy wrote: >In the future when Linux is more heavily used at the enterprise level >there will likely be upgrade/revert modules to allow such a transition to >take place. I use some of the largest UNIX supercomputers ever built (IBM SP, Cray T3E, SV1, YMP, XMP, J90, SGI Origin). None of them can start of a new kernel from an earlier version. There are too many things that will fail: Any network activity Active disk I/O Locked memory File modification File structures Disk structures (yes they change...) Clock Synchronization (SMP and cluster) Shared memory (SMP and cluster) semaphores (SMP and cluster) login sessions device status shared disks and distributed file systems (cluster) pipes Before you even try switching kernels, first implement a process checkpoint/restart. The process must be resumed after a boot using the same kernel, with all I/O resumed. Now get it accepted into the kernel. Anything else is just another name for "reboot using new kernel". -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesse I Pollard, II Email: jesse@cats-chateau.net Any opinions expressed are solely my own. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/