Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262679AbVCWA5i (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:57:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262686AbVCWA5T (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:57:19 -0500 Received: from relay01.mail-hub.dodo.com.au ([203.220.32.149]:29375 "EHLO relay01.mail-hub.dodo.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262679AbVCWAz7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:55:59 -0500 From: Grant Coady To: Diego Calleja Cc: Lee Revell , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities] Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:55:51 +1100 Organization: scattered.homelinux.net Message-ID: <3ue141ho6ekruos112pgphbo6p1sruiml2@4ax.com> References: <16944.62310.967444.786526@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <20050314083717.GA19337@elf.ucw.cz> <200503140855.18446.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> <20050314191230.3eb09c37.diegocg@gmail.com> <1110827273.14842.3.camel@mindpipe> <20050323013729.0f5cd319.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20050323013729.0f5cd319.diegocg@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1383 Lines: 31 On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 01:37:29 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: >El Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:07:53 -0500, >Lee Revell escribi?: > >> I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less >> verbose, people would start to wonder more about why Linux takes so much >> longer than XP to boot. > >By the way, Microsoft seems to be claiming that boot time will be reduced to the half >with Longhorn. While we already know how ms marketing team works, 50% looks >like a lot. Is there a good place to discuss what could be done in the linuxland to >improve things? It doesn't looks like a couple of optimizations will be enought... Considering msft don't do full options hardware detection until after GUI shell is up, next speed up could simply be start from hibernate? They already do a hardware signature, and if hardware changed you may need a new license anyway :-) Pay per cold boot? Noisy startup? 2.6 has good solution in default kernel build, display milestones during startup or super quiet loader option passed from boot? "dmesg -qq" thru "dmesg -vv" stir anyone? Grant. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/