Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261531AbVC0XRM (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:17:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261601AbVC0XRL (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:17:11 -0500 Received: from mail.kroah.org ([69.55.234.183]:2522 "EHLO perch.kroah.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261531AbVC0XRD (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:17:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:09:56 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Aaron Gyes Cc: Adrian Bunk , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Kyle Moffett , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!. Message-ID: <20050327230955.GA32749@kroah.com> References: <1111886147.1495.3.camel@localhost> <490243b66dc7c3f592df7a7d0769dcb7@mac.com> <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <16d78e9ea33380a1f1ad90c454fb6e1d@mac.com> <20050327180417.GD3815@gallifrey> <20050327183522.GM4285@stusta.de> <1111951014.9831.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1111951014.9831.4.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1430 Lines: 30 On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:16:54AM -0800, Aaron Gyes wrote: > > And then the user want to upgrade the 2.0 kernel that shipped with this > > box although the company that made the hardware went bankrupt some years > > ago. > > > > If the user has the source of the driver, he can port the driver or hire > > someone to port the driver (this "obscure piece of hardware" might also > > be an expensive piece of hardware). > > So what? Sure, GPL'd drivers are easier for an end-user in that case. > What does that have to do with law? What about what's better for the > company that made the device? Should NVIDIA be forced to give up their > secrets to all their competitors because some over zealous developers > say so? Should the end-users of the current drivers be forced to lose > out on features such as sysfs and udev compatability? It's not zealotry, it's called being compliant with the license of the kernel. It's as simple as that. If you ignore the license, you will suffer the consequences of it, just like if you ignore the license of any closed source chunk of software. Would you expect the owner of that software to turn a blind eye toward violators? greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/