Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:45:55 +0200
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]
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Hi!

> > > I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less
> > > verbose, people would start to wonder more about why Linux takes so much
> > > longer than XP to boot.
> > 
> > By the way, Microsoft seems to be claiming that boot time will be reduced to the half
> > with Longhorn. While we already know how ms marketing team works, 50% looks
> > like a lot. Is there a good place to discuss what could be done in the linuxland to
> > improve things? It doesn't looks like a couple of optimizations will be enought...
> > 
> 
> Yup, many people on this list seem unaware but read the XP white papers,
> then try booting it side by side with Linux.  They put some serious,
> serious engineering into that problem and came out with a big win.
> Screw Longhorn, we need improve by 50% to catch up to what they can do
> NOW.
> 
> The solution is fairly well known.  Rather than treating the zillions of
> disk seeks during the boot process as random unconnected events, you

Heh, we actually tried that at SuSE and yes, eliminating seeks helps a
bit, but no, it is not magicall cure you'd want it to be.

Only solution seems to be "do less during boot".
								Pavel
-- 
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