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From: David Ford <david@blue-labs.org>
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To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: ORBS blacklist is BROKEN (deliberately)...
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Actually Alan, MAPS notified me a year ago that they were migrating to a 
subscription service and wanted to setup an arrangement.  After talking 
with them and seeing the networks I represent, they made the offer of a 
free subscription.  I chose to use their standard lookups anyway even 
though they offered to work with me for arrangements that benefitted me.

Not everyone is perfect, but there is more to this maps/orbs/* story and 
it isn't all evil :)

David

Alan Cox wrote:

>>http://www.e-scrub.com/orbs/ is the key.  "Ronald F. Guilmette"
>><rfg@monkeys.com> sent this message to spam lists.  Anybody still using
>>ORBS for lookups can expect to get random mail bounces.
>>
>
>Yeah he's decided to solve his load problem by committing an act of criminal
>fraud, computer misuse and a few other violations
>
>>Because of the way Alan disabled the former ORBS list zones, my name
>>server is now shouldering (at least) 1/11th of the total world-wide
>>
>
>[I think he means the way the courts did..]
>
>And guess what, as soon as ORBS got beaten off the net MAPS starts talking
>about charging for their service, just like they promised they never would
>
>Alan
>


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