Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:20:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:20:04 -0400 Received: from horus.its.uow.edu.au ([130.130.68.25]:31196 "EHLO horus.its.uow.edu.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:19:56 -0400 Message-ID: <3B50F000.53EAB651@uow.edu.au> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:21:04 +1000 From: Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Phillips CC: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-lvm@sistina.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write In-Reply-To: <20010715025001.B6722@weta.f00f.org>, <20010715025001.B6722@weta.f00f.org> <0107142211300W.00409@starship> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Daniel Phillips wrote: > > On Saturday 14 July 2001 16:50, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 09:45:44AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > As far as I can tell none of them at least in the IDE world > > > > SCSI disk must, or at least some... if not, how to peopel like NetApp > > get these cool HA certifications? > > Atomic commit. The superblock, which references the updated version > of the filesystem, carries a sequence number and a checksum. It is > written to one of two alternating locations. On restart, both > locations are read and the highest numbered superblock with a correct > checksum is chosen as the new filesystem root. But this assumes that it is the most-recently-written sector/block which gets lost in a power failure. The disk will be reordering writes - so when it fails it may have written the commit block but *not* the data which that block is committing. You need a barrier or a full synchronous flush prior to writing the commit block. A `don't-reorder-past-me' barrier is very much preferable, of course. - - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/