Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261230AbVDDOT6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:19:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261233AbVDDOT6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:19:58 -0400 Received: from smtp12.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.20]:173 "EHLO smtp12.wanadoo.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261230AbVDDOTz (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:19:55 -0400 X-ME-UUID: 20050404141954585.8ED521C0008E@mwinf1201.wanadoo.fr Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:16:47 +0200 To: Michael Poole Cc: Sven Luther , debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Message-ID: <20050404141647.GA28649@pegasos> References: <20050404100929.GA23921@pegasos> <87ekdq1xlp.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ekdq1xlp.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Sven Luther Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2148 Lines: 47 On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:26:58AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Sven Luther writes: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Current linux kernel source hold undistributable non-free firmware blobs, and > > to consider them as mere agregation, a clear licence statement from the > > copyright holders of said non-free firmware blobls is needed, read below for > > details. > > > > > > Please keep everyone in the CC, as not everyone reads debian-legal or LKML. > > This question comes up every four or five months. You might have even > been the last one to raise this question on one or more of the mailing > lists you cc'ed. Please, go check the list archives for the previous > (lengthy and multiple) discussions about this topic. Sure, i raised this the last time, and it was discussed on debian-legal and debian-kernel, and since nobody objected, and many where in accord with my arguments in that thread i linked in the parent post, i believe consensus was reached. This is basically the position debian has, and work has already been started to move some of the affected modules in a separate package, which will be distributed from non-free. This is just the followup on said discussion, involving the larger LKML audience, in order to get this fixed for good. As said, it is just a mere technicality to get out of the muddy situation, all the people having contributed source-less firmware blobs, need to give us (us being debian, but also all the linux kernel community) either the source if they persist in distributing the code under the GPL, or a clear distribution licence for these firmware blobs, and clearly identificate them as not covered by the GPL that the file they come in is. Discussing legal issues is all cool and nice for those that appreciates such sport, but it doesn't really make sense if it is not applied to acts later on. Friendly, Sven Luther - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/