Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261345AbVDDTcO (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:32:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261349AbVDDTcO (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:32:14 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:34309 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261345AbVDDTcG (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:32:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:32:04 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: md@Linux.IT, Greg KH , debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Message-ID: <20050404193204.GD4087@stusta.de> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Bunk , md@Linux.IT, Greg KH , debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050404100929.GA23921@pegasos> <87ekdq1xlp.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> <20050404141647.GA28649@pegasos> <20050404175130.GA11257@kroah.com> <20050404190518.GA17087@wonderland.linux.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050404190518.GA17087@wonderland.linux.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1497 Lines: 52 On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:05:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 04, Greg KH wrote: > > > What if we don't want to do so? I know I personally posted a solution > Then probably the extremists in Debian will manage to kill your driver, > like they did with tg3 and others. And as they are doing with e.g. the complete gcc documentation. No documentation for the C compiler (not even a documentation of the options) will be neither fun for the users of Debian nor for the Debian maintainers - but it's the future of Debian... The Debian Social Contract says: Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software The next "editorial changes" to your social contract might remove the "Our Users and"... Seriously: There might be real problems with non-distributable firmware, but the known extremist position of Debian on such issues produces negative emotions if something like this comes from Debian. > This sucks, yes. Agreed. > ciao, > Marco (@debian.org) cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/