Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261649AbVDEJ12 (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Apr 2005 05:27:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261654AbVDEJ10 (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Apr 2005 05:27:26 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:51857 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261649AbVDEJYr (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 Apr 2005 05:24:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:24:23 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Adam Belay Cc: Patrick Mochel , Greg KH , linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [RFC] Driver States Message-ID: <20050405092423.GA7254@elf.ucw.cz> References: <1111963367.3503.152.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1112222717.3503.213.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1112222717.3503.213.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1202 Lines: 30 Hi! > > You have a few things here that can easily conflict, and that will be > > developed at different paces. I like the direction that it's going, but > > how do you intend to do it gradually. I.e. what to do first? > > I think the first step would be for us to all agree on a design, whether > it be this one or another, so we can began planning for long term > changes. > > My arguments for these changes are as follows: 0. I do not see how to gradually roll this in. > 4. Having responsibilities at each driver level encourages a > layered and object based design, reducing code duplication and > complexity. Unfortunately, you'll be retrofiting this to existing drivers. AFAICS, trying to force existing driver to "layered and object based design" can only result in mess. Pavel -- People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers... ...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl! - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/