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Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:18:22 +0200
From: Jacek Luczak <difrost@pin.if.uz.zgora.pl>
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To: Natanael Copa <mlists@tanael.org>
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Subject: Re: forkbombing Linux distributions
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Natanael Copa napisa?(a):
> On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 12:11 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> 
> 
>>Didn't you ever look up what a ulimit is?
> 
> 
> ofcourse i did. I just think that ulimit (or other userspace tools)
> should be used to *raise* the limit if you need more. Not the reverse.
> 
> 
>>If you consider your distro's default ulimits unreasonable, file a bug
>>report with them.  But no one is going to make Linux "restrictive by
>>default" to make life easier for people who don't bother to RTFM.
> 
> 
> I already suggested ulimit solutions for my distro. They think that if
> this is needed the kernel dev's would do something (ie its a kernel
> problem) while the kernel dev's says this is a userspace prob.
> 
> I wouldn't bother if this was a problem for one or two distros only.
> Now, almost all distros seems to be vulnerable by default.
> 
> I wouldn't bother if other *nixes would set this limit in userspace.
> (the BSD's set the limit lower in kernel and let users who need more
> raise with userland tools)
> 
> I wouldn't bother if this wouldn't give Linux a bad reputation.
> 
> I'm Sorry if I made some people upset.
> 
> --
> Natanael Copa
> 
> 
You have absolutely right!!! Even if 'good' ulimit is set there isn't
anything bad in adding ulimit-like mechanism into kernel.

Long live ... hmm... kernel, not ulimit:)

Best regards,
Jacek

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