Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262404AbVDGJf0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 05:35:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262405AbVDGJf0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 05:35:26 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:25812 "EHLO parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262404AbVDGJfS (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 05:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4254FEC0.5060708@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:34:56 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050328 Fedora/1.7.6-1.2.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric W. Biederman" CC: Arjan van de Ven , Christoph Hellwig , Ian Campbell , Sven Luther , "Theodore Ts'o" , Greg KH , Michael Poole , debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. References: <20050404141647.GA28649@pegasos> <20050404175130.GA11257@kroah.com> <20050404182753.GC31055@pegasos> <20050404191745.GB12141@kroah.com> <20050404192945.GB1829@pegasos> <20050404205527.GB8619@thunk.org> <20050404211931.GB3421@pegasos> <1112689164.3086.100.camel@icampbell-debian> <20050405083217.GA22724@pegasos> <1112690965.3086.107.camel@icampbell-debian> <20050405091144.GA18219@lst.de> <1112693287.6275.30.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1623 Lines: 44 Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Arjan van de Ven writes: > > >>On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 11:11 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:49:25AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >>> >>>>I don't think you did get a rejection, a few people said that _they_ >>>>weren't going to do it, but if you want to then go ahead. I think people >>>>are just fed up of people bringing up the issue and then failing to do >>>>anything about it -- so prove them wrong ;-) >>> >>>Actually patches to add firmware loader support to tg3 got rejected. >> >>I think they will be accepted if they first introduce a transition >>period where tg3 will do request_firmware() and only use the built-in >>firmware if that fails. Second step is to make the built-in firmware a >>config option and then later on when the infrastructure matures for >>firmware loading/providing firmware it can be removed from the driver >>entirely. > > > For tg3 a transition period shouldn't be needed as firmware loading > is only needed on old/buggy hardware which is not the common case. > Or to support advanced features which can be disabled. TSO firmware is commonly used these days. > I am fairly certain in that case the firmware came from the bcm5701 > broadcom driver for the tg3 which I think is gpl'd. So the firmware > may legitimately be under the GPL. It is. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/