Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262482AbVDGPHb (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:07:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262484AbVDGPHa (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0400 Received: from mail1.kontent.de ([81.88.34.36]:49865 "EHLO Mail1.KONTENT.De") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262482AbVDGPHJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:07:09 -0400 From: Oliver Neukum To: Humberto Massa Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:07:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: linux-os@analogic.com, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acenic@sunsite.dk References: <200504071653.43259.oliver@neukum.org> <42554B36.3080702@almg.gov.br> In-Reply-To: <42554B36.3080702@almg.gov.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200504071707.04254.oliver@neukum.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1681 Lines: 40 Am Donnerstag, 7. April 2005 17:01 schrieb Humberto Massa: > Oliver Neukum wrote: > > > > > As this has been discussed numerous times and consensus never > > achieved and is unlikely to be achieved, I suggest that you keep this > > discussion internal to Debian until at least you have patches which > > can be evaluated and discussed. Until then Debian may do to its > > kernel whatever it pleases and should be prepared to explain to its > > users why it removed or altered drivers. > > > > Regards Oliver > > > > Hi, Oliver. > > You seemed to answer my e-mail without reading it; what I was explaining > in it was: this is not a matter of patches, but of asking Where are the > copyrights notices, Who are the copyright owners, and Which license are > the firmwares under, and AFTER that, patching what should be patched. > > Those three questions (Where, Who, Which) can only be answered by the > kernel maintainers, and this is in *NO* way a Debian-only discussion. As > I mentioned before, kernel.org kernel tree is, as of today, non-free and > undistributable IMHO. Those who care got you after the second message at the latest. Anything more just annoys people. Some even pay for their online time. Who doesn't care will not start caring. Your oppinion on that matter frankly is exactly that. If you care that deeply about it you'll have to track down copyright holders yourself. Good luck. Regards Oliver - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/