Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262766AbVDHIKk (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:10:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262762AbVDHIFp (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:05:45 -0400 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.25]:40793 "EHLO smtp6.wanadoo.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262758AbVDHICK (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 04:02:10 -0400 X-ME-UUID: 20050408080202411.63F981C001F7@mwinf0603.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:57:44 +0200 To: Henning Makholm Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, debian-legal@lists.debian.org, linux-acenic@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Message-ID: <20050408075744.GF9057@pegasos> Reply-To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org References: <87zmw9dipp.fsf@kreon.lan.henning.makholm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87zmw9dipp.fsf@kreon.lan.henning.makholm.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Sven Luther Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1711 Lines: 40 On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 04:56:50AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit "David Schwartz" > [quoting me] > > >> No, it is completely wrong to say that the object file is merely an > >> aggregation. The two components are being coupled much more tightly > >> than in the situation that the GPL discribes as "mere aggregation". > > > Would you maintain this position even if the firmware is identical > > across operating systems and the Linux driver is identical across different > > firmware builds for different hardware implementations? > > Yes I would. Linking forms a tighter coupling than just placing the > two parts side by side on a filesystem designed for general storage of > byte streams. There is more to say about the situation than the naked So, why didn't you say it when i posted my analysis to debian-legal a month ago and asked for comments ? > fact that that they are aggreated on the same medium; ergo the > sutiation does not constitute *only* aggregation, and the "mere > aggregation" language of the GPL does not apply. > > In particular, the end of GPL #2 does not provide a blanket exception > for all forms of aggregation; it specifically speaks about aggregation > "on a volume of a storage or distribution medium". Read my argumentation, comment on it, and be prepared to consider the same copy of the firmware as a derived work if shipped on a prom on the device itself. Friendly, Sven Luther - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/