Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262717AbVDHLXz (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:23:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262734AbVDHLXz (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:23:55 -0400 Received: from mail.fh-wedel.de ([213.39.232.198]:5016 "EHLO moskovskaya.fh-wedel.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262717AbVDHLXt (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:23:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:23:29 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel To: Josselin Mouette Cc: Adrian Bunk , debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Message-ID: <20050408112329.GA2292@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> References: <20050404100929.GA23921@pegasos> <87ekdq1xlp.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org> <20050404141647.GA28649@pegasos> <20050404175130.GA11257@kroah.com> <20050404190518.GA17087@wonderland.linux.it> <20050404193204.GD4087@stusta.de> <1112709907.30856.17.camel@silicium.ccc.cea.fr> <20050407210722.GC4325@stusta.de> <1112944920.11027.13.camel@silicium.ccc.cea.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1112944920.11027.13.camel@silicium.ccc.cea.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1337 Lines: 32 On Fri, 8 April 2005 09:22:00 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 07 avril 2005 ? 23:07 +0200, Adrian Bunk a ?crit : > > > As a contrast, read the discussion between Christoph and Arjan in a part > > of this thread how to move firmware out of kernel drivers without > > problems for the users. This might not happen today, but it's better for > > the users. > > Some Debian developers have been writing such patches so that we can > still run Linux on this hardware, long before the topic was raised on > the LKML. I can point you to dozens of patches I have written that were never merged. Not because Linus is a d*ckhead (he's not), but because they were not good enough then and I didn't spend the time to improve them, so far. "Someone's written some patches" is a long way from "we have a good solution". J?rn -- You cannot suppose that Moliere ever troubled himself to be original in the matter of ideas. You cannot suppose that the stories he tells in his plays have never been told before. They were culled, as you very well know. -- Andre-Louis Moreau in Scarabouche - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/