Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262434AbVDLQ0d (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262447AbVDLQ0V (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:26:21 -0400 Received: from lug-owl.de ([195.71.106.12]:49841 "EHLO lug-owl.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262434AbVDLQXd (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:23:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:23:32 +0200 From: Jan-Benedict Glaw To: "Kilau, Scott" Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Ihalainen Nickolay , admin@list.net.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wen Xiong Subject: Re: Digi Neo 8: linux-2.6.12_r2 jsm driver Message-ID: <20050412162332.GL4965@lug-owl.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Kilau, Scott" , Christoph Hellwig , Ihalainen Nickolay , admin@list.net.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Wen Xiong References: <335DD0B75189FB428E5C32680089FB9F122152@mtk-sms-mail01.digi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2feizKym29CxAecD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <335DD0B75189FB428E5C32680089FB9F122152@mtk-sms-mail01.digi.com> X-Operating-System: Linux mail 2.6.10-rc2-bk5lug-owl X-gpg-fingerprint: 250D 3BCF 7127 0D8C A444 A961 1DBD 5E75 8399 E1BB X-gpg-key: wwwkeys.de.pgp.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2679 Lines: 72 --2feizKym29CxAecD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2005-04-12 10:30:19 -0500, Kilau, Scott wrote in message <335DD0B75189FB428E5C32680089FB9F122152@mtk-sms-mail01.dig= i.com>: > > There are people who just want the card supported. There's no reason > > to deny the driver to them. >=20 > Oh, it *is* supported, using our GPL'ed DGNC driver available on our > ftp/web site. >=20 > This is not some argument of closed binaries versus open source > binaries, > As both the JSM and DGNC drivers are completely open source and GPL'ed. So then please do *all* the work, not only the first half. Writing a driver is a nice thing, but doesn't actually help anybody. Doing a driver for eg. Linux means to *care* for it. That is, writing it is only the very first step of a longer way. The next step is to supply patches for review. Then you'll get some feedback and you're expected to work the issues out. Then you can again submit patches -- and repeat this until it's merged. > This is about having the users of this card end up=20 > getting a worse experience by using the JSM driver. Then please work on getting your driver included into Linus' and Andrews kernel sources. For some time, both drivers may co-exist, but once one driver is *really* superior over the other one and there are *no* issues left that force people to use the worse driver, that one will die out at some time. But please be prepared to be in a competitive position. You've won't get your driver included by just telling once about it; you'll need to work towards that goal, and probably monitor the driver to be useable in the future. MfG, JBG --=20 Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw@lug-owl.de . +49-172-7608481 = _ O _ "Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg = _ _ O fuer einen Freien Staat voll Freier B=C3=BCrger" | im Internet! | im Ira= k! O O O ret =3D do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA)= ); --2feizKym29CxAecD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCW/YEHb1edYOZ4bsRAvNfAJ9pfE9jCurz2FD1HFU1NUGxrzlaMwCeO697 jjYdCRfkstMQNFoPqUXBWp4= =qBk+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2feizKym29CxAecD-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/