Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262484AbVDLSct (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:32:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262274AbVDLSct (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:32:49 -0400 Received: from zxa8020.lanisdn-gte.net ([206.46.31.146]:43684 "EHLO links.magenta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262528AbVDLRu3 (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:50:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:50:13 -0400 From: Raul Miller To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Message-ID: <20050412135013.M32136@links.magenta.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from davids@webmaster.com on Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 09:44:29AM -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1937 Lines: 39 On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 09:44:29AM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > I would say that if not for the EULA, you could transfer ownership > of the image to someone else. And if you legally acquired two copies of > Windows, you could install both of them and transfer them. Otherwise, > you could not sell a machine with the Windows OS installed unless you > were a Microsoft OEM. Does Microsoft take the position that if you want > to sell your PC, you must wipe the OS? Not that I know of. [1] I think you've confused Microsoft's Original Equipment Manufacturer License with Microsoft's End User License Agreement. [2] The grounds for Microsoft's EULA are much weaker than the grounds for the GPL restrctions on the production of derivative works. At least with the GPL, you're getting something you didn't already have (rights restricted to the copyright holder -- for example, in the states, under 17 USC 106). With Microsoft's EULA, it's not clear that you're getting anything in exchange for complying with the copyright -- at least not in the U.S. which is where Microsoft is based. You already have a number of rights (17 USC 107, 17 USC 117), and while the DMCA has put into law that you can't bypass copyright protection (17 USC 1201), it seems to allow bypassing technological defects which would prevent actions allowed under copyright. It's probably worth noting that legal actions based on Microsoft's EULA are settled out of court -- Microsoft has a history putting a lot of direct and indirect pressure on people charged with violating the agreement and, in the rare case where someone has stood up to the pressure, of cutting their losses and settling out of court. -- Raul - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/