Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262205AbVDLUlH (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:41:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262574AbVDLUjU (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:39:20 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.168]:29714 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262205AbVDLTPk (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:15:40 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: <7eggert@gmx.de> Cc: , Subject: RE: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice. Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:15:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:14:42 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:14:45 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2845 Lines: 67 > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, David Schwartz wrote: > > > If you buy a W*nd*ws install CD, you can create a derived work, > > > e.g. an image > > > of your installation, under the fair use rights (IANAL). Can you > > > distribute > > > that image freely? > > I would say that if not for the EULA, you could transfer > > ownership of the > > image to someone else. > The EULA is irrelevant in germany and in many parts of the USA. Really? I was under the impression EULA's were routinely upheld in the USA. If you have any references for that, I'd love to hear them. > > And if you legally acquired two copies of Windows, > > you could install both of them and transfer them. Otherwise, > > you could not > > sell a machine with the Windows OS installed unless you were a Microsoft > > OEM. > Then it would be stupid to become a OEM. Just buy one CD and > install it on > each computer you sell, combined with a pre-installed ghost. You can only transfer each legally acquired copy once. The nice thing about GPL'd works is you can easily legally acquire as many copies as you want. But for works that are sold for a price, you have to legally acquire one copy for each one you transfer. *You* cannot increase the number of copies of the work, only a lawful distributor of the work can. If you don't want to be bound by the GPL and you want to give ten friends copies of a Linux install disk, you could download ten copies of that disk from an FTP site, transfer them each to a floppy and destroy all other copies. You could then give those copies away under first sale rights. However, technically, if you gave out eleven copies and only legally acquired nine, you are exceeding your rights under first sale. > > Does Microsoft take the position that if you want to sell your PC, you > > must wipe the OS? Not that I know of. > They say it's forbidden do pass even the boot loader you put on disks, > they just won't sue you for just the boot loader. Right, but in these cases the number of copies of the work is increased by the person. In the case of most GPL'd work, you can find any number of web sites that will do this for you. They have to comply with the GPL but you don't. (You don't have to agree to the GPL to lawfully acquire as many copies of the work as you want. Each copy can be lawfully transferred to another under first sale rights.) If you acquire a copy of a GPL'd work that is sold for a price, and you only buy one copy, you cannot make and distribute additional copies without complying with the GPL. Each lawfully-acquired copy can be transferred, however. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/