Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261612AbVDNWjM (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:39:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261615AbVDNWjL (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:39:11 -0400 Received: from vsmtp3alice.tin.it ([212.216.176.143]:6278 "EHLO vsmtp3.tin.it") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261612AbVDNWiq (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:38:46 -0400 Message-ID: <425EEFBE.7080106@tin.it> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:33:34 -0500 From: "Franco \"Sensei\"" Reply-To: Sensei User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041207 Thunderbird/1.0 Mnenhy/0.7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arjanv@redhat.com CC: David Lang , Krzysztof Halasa , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [INFO] Kernel strict versioning References: <4256C89C.4090207@tin.it> <20050408190500.GF15688@stusta.de> <425B1E3F.5080202@tin.it> <20050412015018.GA3828@stusta.de> <425B3864.8050401@tin.it> <425C03D6.2070107@tin.it> <425E9FE2.6090102@tin.it> <425EC778.4070009@tin.it> <1113508514.6293.82.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> In-Reply-To: <1113508514.6293.82.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD76F9A7269296D33854D29FF" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2165 Lines: 54 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD76F9A7269296D33854D29FF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arjan van de Ven wrote: > this is a joke right? If you really think this you have no idea what ABI > stability means and how extremely hard it is to even sort of remotely > approach it. I know it's really hard, the only way of possibly having ABI is plannig things really carefully about every single thing, so knowing every single piece... It's freakin' hard. > Trust me. It's *extremely* hard to impossible. Several security fixes > can only be fixed this way. And it's REALLY fragile even if for other > fixes. And I am very glad that the linux kernel people in general decide > to not go for abi stability, the hacks that would be needed would be so > obscene and the gains very very minimal. (it's open source, you have the > source after all!) The gains are simply a rough reuse of older modules! Just joking... I was simply wondering how guys like beos/haiku (it's a microkernel... i know... don't even think about starting a flame) could get ABI/API... I mean, if it's true that they have... I don't think it's because of c++ instead of plain c... -- Sensei --------------enigD76F9A7269296D33854D29FF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCXu++4LBKhYmYotsRAmiOAJ9BqPVrK1b1yAWTTdEA+GHxD03WYwCdHsp8 hBnA1CH0XwR9KmD8RJlDn6k= =DZ/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD76F9A7269296D33854D29FF-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/