Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261839AbVDOQTS (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:19:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261857AbVDOQTS (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:19:18 -0400 Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr ([213.228.0.44]:9653 "EHLO postfix3-1.free.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261839AbVDOQTN (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:19:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Exploit in 2.6 kernels From: Duncan Sands To: Dave Airlie Cc: Alan Cox , Lennart Sorensen , Lars Marowsky-Bree , Helge Hafting , John M Collins , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <21d7e9970504150906e821374@mail.gmail.com> References: <1113298455.16274.72.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <425BBDF9.9020903@ev-en.org> <1113318034.3105.46.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <20050412210857.GT11199@shell0.pdx.osdl.net> <1113341579.3105.63.camel@caveman.xisl.com> <425CEAC2.1050306@aitel.hist.no> <20050413125921.GN17865@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <20050413130646.GF32354@marowsky-bree.de> <20050413132308.GP17865@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <1113577241.11155.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <21d7e9970504150906e821374@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:19:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1113581968.22320.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1332 Lines: 28 > I still don't think they would lose out by much.. I've just being > trying to RE the ATI Mpeg2 IDCT/MC hardware, ATI know this, I know > this, they are only wasting my time and my employers money (we still > are going to buy their chips... no choice..) will they give out specs > .. no .. why? cause of lawyers.. they use MPEG2 decoders for DVD > decode and some lawyer told them this is a major secret despite the > fact that everyone knows how to decode Mpeg2 and DVDs at this stage.. > > same story with VIA who persist on giving out a binary only blob for > MPEG2 hardware despite the fact that it was RE'ed over two years ago.. > the secret is out... When I was RE the ATI IDCT stuff a few years ago, someone at ATI told me that the problem was that the company they licensed the IDCT stuff from wouldn't let them give out any specs. I may be remembering this wrong since it was a long time ago... Duncan. PS: At some point I changed hardware, and didn't need the IDCT anymore. I just tried to find my notes on it, but there only seems to be some stuff about the tv tuner... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/