Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261885AbVDOSKS (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:10:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261897AbVDOSKQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:10:16 -0400 Received: from mustang.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.3]:38341 "HELO mustang.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261885AbVDOSIQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:08:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Kernel Rootkits From: Lee Revell To: "Malita, Florin" Cc: linux-os@analogic.com, Allison , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1113586421.26941.121.camel@scox.glenatl.glenayre.com> References: <1113586421.26941.121.camel@scox.glenatl.glenayre.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:08:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1113588494.23659.9.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1405 Lines: 34 On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 13:33 -0400, Malita, Florin wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 13:16 -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > I'm not sure there really are any "kernel" rootkits. You need to be > > root to install a module and you need to be root to replace a kernel > > with a new (possibly altered) one. If you are root, you don't > > need an exploit. > > rootkit != exploit > > The exploit is used to gain root privileges while the rootkit is used > after that to install & hide backdoors, sniffers, keyloggers etc. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit > "Rootkit" is sometimes used to refer to the all-in-one bundle, that contains the exploit and the tools the attacker installs once they are in. OT: the dumbest rootkit I ever came across came from someone who cracked one of our nameservers via an openssh hole. They were careful to replace netstat, ps, etc but apparently didn't know about lsof, which was the first thing I tried of course. Then they hid the old binaries in a subdirectory of /dev (because no one would ever look there). Thanks to the "l33t skillz" of the author, I didn't even have to wipe the machine to recover it. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/