Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262549AbVDPBat (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:30:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262553AbVDPBat (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:30:49 -0400 Received: from abraham.CS.Berkeley.EDU ([128.32.37.170]:26639 "EHLO abraham.cs.berkeley.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262549AbVDPBai (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:30:38 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Newsgroups: isaac.lists.linux-kernel Subject: Re: Fortuna Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: isaac Message-ID: References: <20050415162225.GA23277@certainkey.com> <20050415165036.16224.qmail@science.horizon.com> Reply-To: daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) NNTP-Posting-Host: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu X-Trace: abraham.cs.berkeley.edu 1113614920 4805 128.32.168.222 (16 Apr 2005 01:28:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:28:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 877 Lines: 19 linux wrote: >/dev/urandom depends on the strength of the crypto primitives. >/dev/random does not. All it needs is a good uniform hash. That's not at all clear. I'll go farther: I think it is unlikely to be true. If you want to think about cryptographic primitives being arbitrarily broken, I think there will be scenarios where /dev/random is insecure. As for what you mean by "good uniform hash", I think you'll need to be a bit more precise. >Do a bit of reading on the subject of "unicity distance". Yes, I've read Shannon's original paper on the subject, as well as many other treatments. I stand by my comments above. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/