Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261243AbVDZFbr (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:31:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261221AbVDZFbq (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:31:46 -0400 Received: from smtp.istop.com ([66.11.167.126]:26293 "EHLO smtp.istop.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261243AbVDZFaH (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:30:07 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: Lars Marowsky-Bree Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] dlm: overview Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:30:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20050425151136.GA6826@redhat.com> <20050425203952.GE25002@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20050425210915.GX32085@marowsky-bree.de> In-Reply-To: <20050425210915.GX32085@marowsky-bree.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504260130.17016.phillips@istop.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1902 Lines: 47 On Monday 25 April 2005 17:09, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > Now that we have two (or three) options with actual users, now is the > right time to finally come up with sane and useful abstractions. This is > great. Great thought, but it won't work unless you actually read them all, which I hope is what you're proposing. > With APIs, I think we do need a DLM-switch in the kernel, but also the > DLMs should really seem much the same to user-space apps. From what I've > seen, dlmfs is OCFS2 wasn't doing too badly there. The icing would of > course be if even the configuration was roughly similar, and if OCFS2's > configfs might prove valuable to other users too. I'm a little skeptical about the chance of fitting an 11-parameter function call into a generic kernel plug-in framework. Are those the exact same 11 parameters that God intended? While it would be great to share a single dlm between gfs and ocfs2 - maybe Lustre too - my crystal ball says that that laudable goal is unlikely to be achieved in the near future, whereas there isn't much choice but to sort out a common membership framework right now. As far as I can see, only cluster membership wants or needs a common framework. And I'm not sure that any of that even needs to be in-kernel. Regards, Daniel > The cluster summit in June will certainly be a very ... exciting place. > Let's hope this also stirs up KS a bit ;-) > > Oh, and just to anticipate that discussion, anyone who suggests to adopt > the SAF AIS locking API into the kernel should be preemptively struck; > that naming etc is just beyond words. > > > Sincerely, > Lars Marowsky-Br?e - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/