Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261408AbVDZJQp (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:16:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261415AbVDZJQp (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:16:45 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:37337 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261408AbVDZJQl (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:16:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:16:03 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Adam Belay , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Adam Belay , Dave Jones , Andrew Morton , Alan Stern , alexn@dsv.su.se, Greg KH , gud@eth.net, Linux Kernel list , linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, Jeff Garzik , cramerj@intel.com, Linux-USB , Linux-pm mailing list Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci shutdown ability Message-ID: <20050426091603.GA1824@elf.ucw.cz> References: <1114458325.983.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050425145831.48f27edb.akpm@osdl.org> <20050425221326.GC15366@redhat.com> <20050425232330.GG27771@neo.rr.com> <1114489949.7111.43.camel@gaston> <20050426062314.GC3951@neo.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050426062314.GC3951@neo.rr.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3029 Lines: 75 Hi! > > I don't like this notion of "stop" separated from power states anyway, I > > think it just doesn't work in practice. > > Yeah, after giving it some additional thought, I think there are better ways. > > > > > Ben. > > > > Ok, here's a new idea. > > For many devices "->suspend" and "->resume" with pm_message_t is exactly what > we need. However, as we support more advanced power management features, such > as runtime power management, or power containers, we need something a little > more specific. The exact power state must be specified among other > issues. Okay, maybe. But not by adding 3 new callbacks that mirror existing functionality. > We might do something like this: > > Keep "->suspend" and "->resume" around unchanged. (so the states would > probably remain as PMSG_FREEZE and PMSG_SUSPEND). If the driver doesn't > support the more advanced PM methods just use these. They work well enough > for system sleep states etc. > > Alternatively drivers could support a more rich power management interface > via the following methods: > > > change_state - changes a device's power state > > change_state(struct device * dev, pm_state_t state, struct system_state * sys_state, int reason); > @dev - the device > @state - the target device-specific power state > @sys_state - a data structure containing information about the intended global system power state > @reason - why the state must be changed (ex. RUNTIME_PM, > SYSTEM_SLEEP, SYSTEM_RESUME, etc.) If drivers really need to know system state and reason, just put it into pm_message_t. I wanted to add "flags" there from the begining, serving similar purpose as your "reason". > halt - acts somewhat like PMSG_FREEZE, stops device activity, doesn't change power state > > halt(struct device * dev, struct system_state * sys_state, int reason); > @dev - the device > @sys_state - a data structure containing information about the intended global system power state > @reason - why we are halting operation (ex. RUNTIME_CHANGES (like cpufreq), SYSTEM_SLEEP, SHUTDOWN, REBOOT) If it is similar to PMSG_FREEZE, just pass PMSG_FREEZE and put * sys_state and reason into pm_message_t. > contine - resumes from a "halt" > > continue(struct device * dev, struct system_state * sys_state, int reason); > @dev - the device > @sys_state - a data structure containing information about the intended global system power state > @reason - why we are resuming operation (ex. RUNTIME_CHANGES (like cpufreq), SYSTEM_RESUME) Now, here you have a point. resume() should get pm_message_t, too. This should be rather easy to change (simple matter of coding), and we have agreed before that it is good idea. Patches welcome. Pavel -- Boycott Kodak -- for their patent abuse against Java. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/