Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261435AbVDZJg7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:36:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261436AbVDZJg7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:36:59 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:7839 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261435AbVDZJgz (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:36:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:36:36 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Takashi Ikebe Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Kyle Moffett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen Subject: Re: [PATCH x86_64] Live Patching Function on 2.6.11.7 Message-ID: <20050426093636.GB4175@elf.ucw.cz> References: <4263275A.2020405@lab.ntt.co.jp> <426C51C4.9040902@lab.ntt.co.jp> <426CC8F7.8070905@lab.ntt.co.jp> <200504251636.j3PGa9SJ015388@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <426D9AC0.5020908@lab.ntt.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <426D9AC0.5020908@lab.ntt.co.jp> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1385 Lines: 31 On ?t 26-04-05 10:34:56, Takashi Ikebe wrote: > I think that's the common sense in every carrier. > If we reboot the switch, the service will be disrupted. > The phone network is lifeline, and does not allow to be disrupt by just > bug fix. > I think same kind of function is needed in many real > enterprise/mission-critical/business area. > > All do with ptrace may affect target process's time critical task. (need > to stop target process whenever fix) > All implement in user application costs too much, need to implement all > the application...(and I do not know this approach really works on time > critical applications yet.) > There are clear demand to realize this common and GPL-ed function.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I had very strong urge to reply with "" here. Clearly noone but you wants to make kernel more ugly just for "faster ptrace". If you want faster ptrace, fine, advertise it as such and provide nice and small patch to make it faster. If you are going to handwave about "clear demand", well, find some other list to troll on. Pavel -- Boycott Kodak -- for their patent abuse against Java. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/