Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 18:30:27 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Prisoner Of War <inmate@agf-team.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: USB maintainer, Greg Kroah ---->> PWC discussion
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 05:07:04PM +0200, Prisoner Of War wrote:
> 
> > Dear readers of this maillinglist,
> 
> Hi "Prisoner Of War" [1],
> 
> >...
> > Now my dear daughter has her own laptop and she insists to run linux on 
> > it. She just had her birthday and she got a nice logitec webcam so she 
> > can use it on that very stable system.
> > 
> > BUT NO!!
> > 
> > These days she can't anymore. Why ?? Because there's a problem between 
> > hrh Greg Kroah (usb maintainer) and somebody who did his best to give 
> > user the possibility of using a goodworking webcam.
> > 
> > I don't want the discussion if it's proper or not to have that driver in 
> > the kernel. I have just the problem that i have todo more before it works...
> > 
> > I realy don't give a sh*t about that. I just want one thing and that is 
> > that the webcam starts working again and work like in ASAP. Rather 
> > yesterday then today.
> 
> if you'd have looked at the facts instead of writing this public flame 
> you would have noticed, that the pwc driver was already in 2.6.12-rc 
> yesterday, and that it was even there several days before yesterday.
>  
Not to mention that it has also been available sepperately from the kernel 
for a while at http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/


> > So here's a user yrh Greg Kroah that realy wants that driver back in. 
> > I'm a user and i'm not alone! There are more users like me and what we 
> > want is that we have hardware which should work with the os we choose. 
> > We choose linux because it's stable and it's not wintendo. Are you gonna 
> > decide for us what we want ?? I hope not coz history tells us that those 
> > kind of people never last long...
> 
> It wasn't that Greg simply wanted to take the hardware support away from 
> the users of Linux.
> 
> Greg also does his best to give the users of Linux a good working 
> kernel. The details of how to achieve this might be discussible, but 
> constructive contributions are usually more constructive than public 
> flames.
> 
> > So what about it are you going to help me? And make it possible for us 
> > to use our choosen hardware?
> 
> Wait for 2.6.12.
> 
> Or (if there is a pressing need for you) use 2.6.11-ac or 2.6.12-rc3.
> 
> > I realy hope you listen to me / us because I / we choose linux above 
> > windows...
> 
If you really want Greg to answer your questions then I'm wondering why 
you didn't write this email to him or at least put him on CC:...


-- 
Jesper Juhl


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