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Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:19:21 +0200
From: Prisoner Of War <inmate@agf-team.net>
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Subject: Re: USB maintainer, Greg Kroah ---->> PWC discussion
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Adrian Bunk wrote:

>On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 05:07:04PM +0200, Prisoner Of War wrote:
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>>Dear readers of this maillinglist,
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>Hi "Prisoner Of War" [1],
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>>...
>>Now my dear daughter has her own laptop and she insists to run linux on 
>>it. She just had her birthday and she got a nice logitec webcam so she 
>>can use it on that very stable system.
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>>BUT NO!!
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>>These days she can't anymore. Why ?? Because there's a problem between 
>>hrh Greg Kroah (usb maintainer) and somebody who did his best to give 
>>user the possibility of using a goodworking webcam.
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>>I don't want the discussion if it's proper or not to have that driver in 
>>the kernel. I have just the problem that i have todo more before it works...
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>>I realy don't give a sh*t about that. I just want one thing and that is 
>>that the webcam starts working again and work like in ASAP. Rather 
>>yesterday then today.
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>if you'd have looked at the facts instead of writing this public flame 
>you would have noticed, that the pwc driver was already in 2.6.12-rc 
>yesterday, and that it was even there several days before yesterday.
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It was taken out. Why ? Coz it's not working? Since a few days back...if 
you don't take it out you don't have to put it back.

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>>So here's a user yrh Greg Kroah that realy wants that driver back in. 
>>I'm a user and i'm not alone! There are more users like me and what we 
>>want is that we have hardware which should work with the os we choose. 
>>We choose linux because it's stable and it's not wintendo. Are you gonna 
>>decide for us what we want ?? I hope not coz history tells us that those 
>>kind of people never last long...
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>It wasn't that Greg simply wanted to take the hardware support away from 
>the users of Linux.
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He did it and i / we users had the problem.

>Greg also does his best to give the users of Linux a good working 
>kernel. The details of how to achieve this might be discussible, but 
>constructive contributions are usually more constructive than public flames.
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This wasn't a flame....

>>So what about it are you going to help me? And make it possible for us 
>>to use our choosen hardware?
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>Wait for 2.6.12.
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>Or (if there is a pressing need for you) use 2.6.11-ac or 2.6.12-rc3.
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>>I realy hope you listen to me / us because I / we choose linux above 
>>windows...
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>It's usually more impressive to point to your contributions to the 
>development of the Linux kernel (if any).
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This is the greatest bullsh*t ever written. With other words if you 
don't contribute you need to silent....
BTW i / we did.

>I for one have used a few minutes of the part of my spare time I do 
>spend for Linux kernel development for writing this email instead of 
>doing any work...
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And used some extra time to be sarcastic....What a waste.....

>>Regards,
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>>Gabriel Kenter
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>cu
>Adrian
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>[1] what a funny name your parents did choose for you
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Does a name count.......strange.....talking about open....


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