Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261666AbVEJPco (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 May 2005 11:32:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261675AbVEJPcn (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 May 2005 11:32:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.e7even.com ([83.151.192.5]:38545 "HELO smtp.e7even.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261666AbVEJPcf (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 May 2005 11:32:35 -0400 Subject: Re: file as a directory From: Peter Foldiak To: Hans Reiser Cc: sean.mcgrath@propylon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <4280CAEF.5060202@namesys.com> References: <2c59f00304112205546349e88e@mail.gmail.com> <41A1FFFC.70507@hist.no> <41A21EAA.2090603@dbservice.com> <41A23496.505@namesys.com> <1101287762.1267.41.camel@pear.st-and.ac.uk> <1115717961.3711.56.camel@grape.st-and.ac.uk> <4280CAEF.5060202@namesys.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1115739129.3711.117.camel@grape.st-and.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:32:10 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1317 Lines: 26 On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 15:53, Hans Reiser wrote: > I agree with the below in that sometimes you want to see a collection of > stuff as one file, and sometimes you want to see it as a tree, and that > file format browsers can be integrated into file system browsers to look > seamless to users. > > A quibble: A name is just a means to select a file; he is completely > wrong to think that file browsers will eliminate filenames. Yes, even if you think of the whole file system as a single "file", you need a way to select the bit you need, and you will use names for that (and whether you call that a filename, a file-part name or an object name doesn't really matter). It is interesting that both he and I gave the example of a book and chapters, which is essentially a linear sequence, and the issue was just the selection of a part of that sequence. It would also be interesting to think about how you could map an arbitrary data structure more complicated than a linear sequence (an "object") to disk. This brings up issues of serialization and object databases.... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/