Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262467AbVEMSXF (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262468AbVEMSXF (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 May 2005 14:23:05 -0400 Received: from remus.commandcorp.com ([130.205.32.4]:21691 "EHLO remus.wittsend.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262467AbVEMSWi (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 May 2005 14:22:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Sync option destroys flash! From: "Michael H. Warfield" Reply-To: mhw@wittsend.com To: Lennart Sorensen Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhw@wittsend.com In-Reply-To: <20050513180915.GH23488@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <1116001207.5239.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050513171758.GB23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <1116006828.5239.72.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050513180915.GH23488@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tsT5oS4BMcQMxLyWUehO" Organization: Thaumaturgy & Speculms Technology Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:21:23 -0400 Message-Id: <1116008483.5239.79.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) X-WittsEnd-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-WittsEnd-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mhw@wittsend.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2611 Lines: 64 --=-tsT5oS4BMcQMxLyWUehO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 14:09 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 01:53:48PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > Yeah, I've heard that claimed but a real problem is that nobody can > > tell which ones do or don't until you've got a crispy chip. I've looke= d > > and I haven't been able to find a single reference on any that you migh= t > > pick up at Best Buy or Fry's. I've never seen one that has it written > > on it that it has any sort of wear leveling like that. But I guess we > > don't all buy our flash drives at an industrial supply house (forget > > Tiger Direct or CDW either - consumer grade). I would bet that most > > people don't even REALIZE that flash has a limited life and wears out. > I believe any flash with a sandisk controller in it will do pretty good > wear leveling (I think all the ones labeled sandisk have their > controller, although they don't all have sandisk flash chips). The > controller is what does the wear leveling. At least for CF and SD this > is what they do. Funny you should mention SanDisk. Maybe the newer ones have gotten better but the CF cards I used in my PDA were mixes of the SanDisk 128 Meg and SimpleTech 128 Meg. Burned up several before I realized it was the nightly backup program that was eating them and I didn't notice any difference between the brands. I don't know what controller was in the SimpleTech CF cards. Any way to tell short of dismantling them? : > Len Sorensen Mike --=20 Michael H. Warfield | (770) 985-6132 | mhw@WittsEnd.com =20 /\/\|=3Dmhw=3D|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/= mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471 | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! --=-tsT5oS4BMcQMxLyWUehO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUAQoTwI+HJS0bfHdRxAQJFNQP+JFVjmoO4nwgX0ppllB0NkCIUo/gm+VoJ DxFl+uOJVOg2HZJlCTWfO81PapTh8f2tr6YNv8s6lFZ7TdnzGil0gQ1WU75yUS5a LdyxDMZSWO0HWLESV8++8d9dp3JiHSGtk3BF//q3QqaYbi3w7PSz7Z6W/qKFS/YR +LL2KdXYsUk= =h05r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tsT5oS4BMcQMxLyWUehO-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/