Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261598AbVEPM6D (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 08:58:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261605AbVEPM6C (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 08:58:02 -0400 Received: from hobbit.corpit.ru ([81.13.94.6]:7767 "EHLO hobbit.corpit.ru") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261598AbVEPM4v (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 May 2005 08:56:51 -0400 Message-ID: <42889890.8090505@tls.msk.ru> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:56:48 +0400 From: Michael Tokarev User-Agent: Debian Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050331) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roberto Fichera CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: How to use memory over 4GB References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050516142516.0313e860@mail.tekno-soft.it> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050516142516.0313e860@mail.tekno-soft.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1981 Lines: 39 Roberto Fichera wrote: > Hi All, > > I've a dual Xeon 3.2GHz HT with 8GB of memory running kernel 2.6.11. > I whould like to know the way how to use all the memory in a single > process, the application is a big simulation which needs big memory > chuncks. > I have readed about hugetlbfs, shmfs and tmpfs, but don't understand how > I can access > the whole memory. Ok! I can create a big file on tmpfs using shm_open() and > than map it by using mmap() or mmap2() but how can I access over 4GB using > standard pointers (if I had to use it)? There's no "standard" and simple way to utilize more than 4Gb memory on i386 hardware, especially in a userspace. That is, the size of a pointer is 32bits, which is 4GB addresspace maximum. i386 architecture just can't have a pointer of greather size. All "extra" (>4GB) space can be used like a file in a filesystem, not like a plain memory. Think of read()/write() (or pread()/pwrite() for that matter), but much faster ones compared to disk-based storage -- in tmpfs. You can also mmap() *parts* of such a file, but will be still limited to 4GB at once -- in order to have more, you will have to unmap() something. All the "large applications" (most notable large database systems such as Oracle) can't use more than 4GB memory directly, but can utilize it for database cache. In directly-addressible space there's a "table of content" of cached buffers is keept, and when a buffer is needed, it is mmap()'ed into the application's address space, and unmapped right away when it isn't needed anymore (but it is still in memory). Ofcourse you can't have usual pointers into that memory, but you can use something like (block-number,offset) instead of a pointer (pagetables). /mjt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/